Subject: RE: memes and dancing
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 14:05:06 -0500
From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
On 12/23/99 12:55, Bruce  Jones said this-
>Where does the individual exist
>and how do you explain such terms as nationalism, pride, community,
>fellowship, common goal, and religion?
The individual is what is born. All the rest follows, and, yes, all the 
rest is environmentally determined and interacted with.
This does not mean you _leave_ anything behind in Texas (although you 
probably should have...) but that you do need to behaviorally adapt with 
what you've got to Boston.
In most cases, unless your genetics are severely impaired, you will, as a 
homo sapiens and a usanian living contemporeanously, not have to adapt 
very hard to what nationalism, pride, community, fellowship, common 
goals, and religion are in Boston.
But, what about Borneo...?
Or to the next family reunion, or tomorrow's shopping trip, or the next 
lover.
The dance is born in us- the music is environmental. 
We, you, some of us, may want to call this environment a memetic one. The 
ability to speak vs. the language form of French, for another tack. I see 
it as an accident of environment and behavioral adaptations, over time. 
I really see no need for a memetic mechanism.
But, also, I ain't but a nobody, but I _do_ see some need for what is 
called 'memetic' analysis, as a valid means of interpreting this 
adaptation.
But the meme itself I have totally given up on.
- Wade
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