Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:08:43 -0800
From: ca314159 <ca314159@bestweb.net>
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: what are memes?
Tim Rhodes wrote:
>
> I don't think it's useful to define memes in terms of their relationship
> with consciousness. Consciousness is an neurological phenomena. (Which I
> believe they may have located in the brain, but I don't have the article
> handy at the moment--anyone?)
> Memes are aided in their spread by it's
> actions, but I don't see what's gained by linking the two (memes and
> consciousness).
>
> I see what looks to me like evidence of memetic transfer in animals we might
> easily consider without consciousness. (Birds, for instance.)
>
> -Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua 'Glok' Sutubra <magej58@yahoo.com>
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Date: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 8:14 PM
> Subject: what are memes?
>
> >There seems to be much discussion and argument about
> >what memes actually are in the evolutionary and
> >behavioral sense. Well, here is my opinion.. memes
> >are 3 things:
> >(1)the 'building blocks' of conciousness (structure)
> >(2)the 'lenses' of consciousness (perception)
> >(3)and the 'tools' of consciousness (behavior)
> >
> >The way I see it, memes CAN account for ALL
> >conscious activity and even (hypnosis, dreams,
> >trances, etc.) subconscious activity.
> >
> >
> >=====
> >Joshua 'Glok' Sutubra
> >__________________________________________________
>
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