From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: i-memes and m-memes
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:17:40 -0400
In-Reply-To: <2CDFE2C8F598D21197C800C04F911B20349353@DELTA.newhouse.akzonobel.nl>
*Sigh*! Here is another muddle you've gotten into by rejecting out of hand
my proposed frame work, instead of testing my conjecture.
If, as I assert, everything is to be considered memetic to begin with, then
you only need to deal with any occasion of replication in and of itself.
Here you are trying to prove a meme in the brain! But if, as I've asserted,
the neural structures are already to be considered memetic, because all
phenomena are memetic, then even the possibility of interim dormancy of
stored memory ceases to be problematic.
And any question of replication of neural structure into redundant neural
structure, or the replication of stored neural encoding into neural behavior
becomes an entirely separate issue. The brain, then, can be it's own
artifact, in regard to any dormant encoding (unstimulated and there for
possibly inactive memory), if such exists.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Gatherer, D. (Derek)
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:52 AM
> To: 'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'
> Subject: RE: i-memes and m-memes
>
>
> Derek:
>
> b) [what internal memes] permit even indirect testing? If you can suggest
> an indirect test [for such internal memes], I'd be very interested.
>
> Bill:
>
> What are we testing here? Are PET scans relevant? Is amnesia?
>
> Derek:
> Yes, of course. If you could show, by PET scanning, that there was some
> replicating internal neural activation pattern that correlated with some
> replicating external behaviour, then that would be fairly
> conclusive for the
> Dawkins B meme.
>
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