From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: i-memes and m-memes
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:00:45 -0400
In-Reply-To: <ylsOOuAGz$y3Ewh9@faichney.demon.co.uk>
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> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Robin Faichney
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:03 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: i-memes and m-memes
>
>
> In message <19990831134427.AAA8531@camail2.harvard.edu>, Wade T.Smith
> <wade_smith@harvard.edu> writes
> >>Seems to me about time to ditch the argument about where they
> >>live, and accept they're peripatetic.
> >
> >Peripatetic- A follower of the philosophy of Aristotle; an Aristotelian.
> >
> >It's about time the finest philosopher of all the eons was brought into
> >this....
>
> I just looked up two dictionaries. One had your defn. first, the other
> had mine: some sort of traveller. (Same root as perambulate, because
> Aristotle walked about while teaching.)
>
> >>I think it important to acknowledge the
> >>involvement of the brain, and the best way I can think of to do so is to
> >>view memes as residing there during one half of their life cycle.
> >
> >But, so far, I still see them as 'living' their entire 'lives' within
> >this brain
>
> That's because you're still thinking of them as "things". They are
> items of information, *encoded* in the brain just as they are *encoded*
> in behaviour and artefacts -- the actual encodings are very different of
> course, but they are certainly encoded in all cases. Just as they are
> not literally contained within artefacts, so they are not literally
> contained within the brain. To think they must be "things" is to make
> the common error of "reification".
Artifacts are only one mode of encoding. Objects are only one type of
transmitter.
>
> >Although, genes certainly can be said to be peripatetic, in the same
> >sense. Long distance romance, anyone?
>
> Not unless there's a chance of sex at some point. ;-)
> --
> Robin Faichney
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