From: "Aaron Agassi" <agassi@erols.com>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Memetic engineering challenge
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:32:43 -0400
In-Reply-To: <19990707201508.AAA9550@camail2.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> Of Wade T.Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 4:13 PM
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Memetic engineering challenge
>
>
> >Bad people are memetic engineers
>
> Quite often the only effective ones, too. Bad things have been and
> continue to be territorially advantageous to perform. 'Feel good'
> policies have little consequence, whereas 'kill the other' policies are
> rather, um, effective.
>
> But memes are not just behavior modification devices- (we can go on and
> on wondering what they in fact are, of course)- but certainly the memetic
> model can be used to support and construct behavior modifying agendas and
> programs, which is what, it appears, ESI is in business to do.
Who?
>
> Whether or not this is memetics is debatable.
>
> Whether or not this is what any of us want memetics to be is debatable.
>
> But supposing that there could be some way to force memetics to offer its
> secrets only to a cognoscenti of do-good illuminati is, well, delirious
> thinking at best.
Memetics is a body of knowledge or speculation that can be digested by
anyone for any application. All swords are double edged, so to speak. Still,
I have considered the design of single edged swords, procedures harder to
abuse, that might not even work if and when abused. I. e., questions that
are not embarrassing except to liars. Bait that has to be taken in malice.
Etc.
>
> - Wade
>
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