Re: Re(2): Paper on chimp culture

Lloyd Robertson (hawkeye@rongenet.sk.ca)
Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:15:23 -0600

Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990629101523.007fec30@rongenet.sk.ca>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:15:23 -0600
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk, memetics@mmu.ac.uk
From: Lloyd Robertson <hawkeye@rongenet.sk.ca>
Subject: Re: Re(2): Paper on chimp culture
In-Reply-To: <B0003927466@hamextw01.htcomp.net>

At 08:16 PM 28/06/99 -0400, Mark M. Mills wrote:
>I find the notion that thoughts are 'languaged into existence' very
>unsatisfactory. How do you get 'the first conversation' using this model?
>
IMHO there was no "first conversation" just like there was no first human
being. Consciousness / self-awareness probably developed in small
incremental steps as the ability to communicate developed, each feeding on
the other. It is impossible to say, therefore, that at some point a
specific dividing line was cross and we suddenly had conversation (the same
argument holds for the development of consciousness).

Lloyd

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