Re: Measuring Memes

William Chambers (williamc@roman.net)
Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:50:05 -0500

From: "William Chambers" <williamc@roman.net>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Measuring Memes
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:50:05 -0500

Derek,

I do not seem to be connecting with anyone on the list at the level of
mathematical discussion, Is there any point in my remaining on the list?

Bill Chambers

-----Original Message-----
From: Gatherer, D. (Derek) <D.Gatherer@organon.nhe.akzonobel.nl>
To: 'memetics@mmu.ac.uk' <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: Measuring Memes

>Bill:
>
>Thanks for your response and insider's view of the state of memes. As a
>methodologist, I must have some notion of the definition or lack of
>definition of memes before I can begin an analysis. Thus far it appears
>there are a number of definitions. So far it is unclear to me whether this
>is because the discipline can not get beyond mere unilatereral declarations
>or if the crucial issues have not yet crystalized or if there really is no
>such thing as memes.
>
>Derek:
>
>Well, yes no and yes (in that order) to the three points. Yes, unilateral
>declarations tend to predominate. No, I think that a lot of issues have
>actually crystallised quite clearly. And yes, there are no such things as
>memes in the Dawkins B sense.
>
>Bill:
>
>Perhaps it is simply a specialization in search of a
>definition? This can be a formula for hollow expertise.
>
>Derek:
>
>It's a specialization in search of an agreed definition.
>
>
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