Re: Vertical vs. hoizontal transmission (was: JASSS Critical Review...)

Chris Lofting (ddiamond@ozemail.com.au)
Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:01:13 +1000

From: "Chris Lofting" <ddiamond@ozemail.com.au>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Vertical vs. hoizontal transmission (was: JASSS Critical Review...)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:01:13 +1000

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Lynch <aaron@mcs.net>
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Date: Friday, 30 April 1999 8:08
Subject: Re: Vertical vs. hoizontal transmission (was: JASSS Critical
Review...)

>At 01:44 PM 4/29/99 -0700, Tim Rhodes wrote:
>>
>>On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Aaron Lynch wrote:
>>
>>> The fastest cases of horizontal transmission are faster than the fastest
>>> cases of vertical transmission, but this does not warrant any blanket
>>> statement that horizontal transmission is faster than vertical. A
>>> horizontally transmitted meme for which adherents win converts at the
rate
>>> of 1 per 30 years can easily be out-propagated by a vertically
transmitted
>>> meme.
>>
>>If I understand you correctly, the vertical transmission of memes takes
place
>>at a rate akin to that of the passing of genes--from parent to child
>>through each generation.
>>
>>Is it your assertion that memetic changes in culture take place at the
same
>>rate as genetic shifts would within a species? And if so, how do you
explain
>>the amount of change in human culture over the last 5,000 years when
compared
>>to the amount of genetic change over that same period?
>>
>>-Tim Rhodes
>
>Tim,
>
>I do not argue by analogy or metaphor to genetic evolution, nor do I
>consider this necessary.

If you use ANY form of symbolism then you do. Mathematics is metaphor. OR
are you one who has a platonic perspective?

Chris Lofting
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond

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