From: <MemeLab@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:32:14 EDT
Subject: Re: dueling ettiquette? or tea party manners?
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
There has been some suggestion that this topic is irrellevant to this list.  
If others see as such, please indicate this by not responding to the message, 
or EMing me directly instead of to the whole list.  Obviously expressing such 
concerns in an EM response to the whole list is self-defeating and 
contradictory to those very concerns.  I would assume that most folks here 
would see that as patently obvious, but apparently that isn't the case for at 
least one person.
I actually do think that it has some relevence to this list, though I may be 
wrong about that.  Communication dynamics, and modes and manner of 
communication I think are very closely related to the spread of ideas.  I 
would think that the dynamics of this list itself is a potential subject for 
study in memetics.  Perhaps some see that as being too close to home because 
it involves people's behavior that are themselves involved in these 
discussion.  We would like to have that comfortable and "respectable" feeling 
of objectivity, but I say *too*bad*.  That is the inherent problem of trying 
to develop a "science" of memetics.  By observing and talking about memetics, 
and struggling to create a "science of memetics" we are inherently inherently 
engaging in memetic activity ourselves.  We can't talk about memetics, and 
then pretend that the ways in which we talk about memetics aren't themselves 
a legitimate topic of memetics.
So far I can identify three possible behavioral modes of communcation, which 
are themselves memes as they can be potentially imitated by others.  In fact 
over time, my own mode of communication HAS evolved through imitation of 
others that I communicate.  One mode would be what I referred to as "tea 
party manners", where the participant attempts to avoid all possible 
manifestations of ad hominem.  The next would be "dueling ettiquette", where 
participants recognize a certain inevitibility to ad hominem but attempt to 
develop conventions of acceptable ad hominem and unacceptable ad hominem to 
control the dialog to more constructive ends.  These conventions themselves 
are memes within the complex of dueling ettiquette, some with varying degrees 
of incompatibility with each other.  And of course finally would be 
un-regulated ad hominem.
These categories are somewhat reminiscient to me of studies about the 
evolution of Prisoner's Dillema strategies done by Robert Axelrod in his 
work, "The Evolution of Cooperation".  I had assumed that most on this list 
were familiar with that, and would see the parallels, but since the relevance 
has been questioned, I figured I ought to try and make this a little more 
obvious.  Just replace cooperation and defection with ad hominem.  The "alway 
cooperate" strategy could correlate with the "tea party manners" where the 
strategy is to never ad hominem - the "tit for tat" strategy would correlate 
with "dueling ettiquette" where the strategy is to engage ad hominem in a 
controlled fashion.  The "always defect" strategy could correlate with the 
uncontrolled ad hominem.
Perhaps, the obvious dueling ettiquette that would correspond to "tit for 
tat" would be to always react as your partner reacts.  The problem with that 
in the context of this list is that we aren't facing just one partner, there 
are many partners simultaneously in addition to the presence of an audience.  
So it makes discussion lists and message boards considerably more complicated 
environments than just a simple one on one series of EM exchanges, and the 
potential for engagement strategies and conventions of interaction to be 
spread memetically increases considerably, as we not only engage in the 
discussions ourselves, but we also watch other people engaging in 
discussions.  Imitation starts to play a more important factor.
-Jake
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