Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990131222503.007ea7e0@rongenet.sk.ca>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:25:03 -0600
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk, memetics@mmu.ac.uk
From: Lloyd Robertson <hawkeye@rongenet.sk.ca>
Subject: Re: Godwin's Law
In-Reply-To: <SIMEON.9901280947.B@BY08109S.livjm.ac.uk>
At 09:19 AM 28/01/99 -0500, BMSDGATH wrote:
>
>On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:51:47 -0600 Lloyd Robertson
><hawkeye@rongenet.sk.ca> wrote:
>
>> >Derek
>> I thought fascists could be described as authoritarian conservative
>> capitalists. Did I miss something?
>
>Fascists are opposed to capitalism (some of them see it as a Jewish
>conspiracy). Fascist economic policy revolves around the 'corporate
>state', which has all the means of production in the hands of the
>government, and also governmental control of trade unions, educational
>institutions, the media etc. (they are power freaks, naturally).
My understanding is that Musselini preached against large industrialists in
favor of small and medium sized business before achieving power but left
the large industrialists in operation after the fact. He did, however,
outlaw strikes.
Hitler's first moves when he achieved political party was to use the SS to
execute those in the SA leadership who were socialists. He, of course also
killed Communists and trade unionists but left the Capitalists intact
(except for businesses run by Jews). Krupp did very well, much better than
the state owned steel company. Slave labor was used, mainly by private
businesses (some of which: see Schindler, were set up especially for this
purpose). Even some foreign companies, like the German subsiduary of
I.T.&T. went thru the war, without being nationalized.
Franco did nothing to dismantle capitalism in his country. His government
was a coalition of Roman Catholics, Fascists and industrialists (with
individuals often being all three at once).
So my question is, which fascists were opposed to capitalism?
Thanks,
Lloyd
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