From: <erimann@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:38:25 -0700
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: memetic engineering
Bruce H. recently posted:
>Before anyone suggests it is some kind of sin to want to control
>culture, please explain why "accidental" or "evolutionary" culture
>development is prefereable
In our discussion on this topic we seem to bounce back and forth between 
extremes in viewpoint. Though some are very skeptical of human intention 
and competence when it comes down to engineering anything, they would 
probably concede that it is not 'sinful' to want to control culture. 
Even Josip is probably not promoting the idea that humans should (or 
can) sit back and enjoy the ride...to hell in the proverbial handbasket. 
And then there are the gung-ho engineers that strike me as a little 
naive in holding the view that technology and education can save our 
ass...that it is possible to scientifically boil down all the memetic 
constituents allowing for the pure application of reason to the task of 
utopia-building. Yeah, well, I really doubt it. Not that I don't find 
the idea seductive. Making a peaceful and loving world would be really 
groovy.  
What makes most sense to me is a middle course. Yes, it is true, human 
engineering accomplishments often inflict more harm than good. AND, yes, 
it is true, the application of scientific methods and reason can result 
in technological solutions to difficult problems. However, the 
scientific manipulation and control of sociocultural evolution will be 
limited by the difficulty human individuals have in reading the 
sociocultural adaptive landscape. What's good for the fitness of the 
culture is not always in the best interest of the genetic fitness of 
members. So, who do we serve?
What I propose is that the human species sits at a unique crossroads 
between two divergent evolutionary trajectories. We are at the far end 
of evolution in the age of the organism. At the same time we are 
muddling about as contituents in an emerging sociocultural age. From the 
memetic "primordial soup" a new class of being steps forth. The adaptive 
concerns and cognitive nature of the emerging being(s) are not the same 
as those that have driven human evolution. Our capacity to direct these 
new bodies is therefore limited. It is for this reason that I remain 
skeptical of the idea that engineering, in its traditional and precise 
meaning, applies.
>From this perspective human agents are not powerless. We have a great 
deal of control over the development of the emerging life forms. What I 
suspect, however, is that we will have to reexamine all previous 
conceptions of engineering. This is not like building aircraft or 
bridges. This is not like bio- or genetic engineering. Rather than 
operating as the one seeing all and controlling all relevant variables 
we must be willing to embrace a new role...that of the infectious agent 
in an institutional, cultural or organizational body.
Advertising, propaganda and marketing technicians are representative of 
sanctioned forms this role has taken. But I keep wondering, shouldn't it 
be possible to infect in a less materialistic and consumer-focused 
manner? Isn't there a way to out-seduce the sanctioned seductress?
yours, in bewilderment
scott
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