challenge?

Toby Foshay (tfoshay@uvic.ca)
Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:45:52 -0700

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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:45:52 -0700
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
From: Toby Foshay <tfoshay@uvic.ca>
Subject: challenge?

>TP wrote
>
>>I might add one more comment. In several of my postings, I have been
>>challenging memetics to define itself in relationship to a known and
>>ancient history of philosophy. I just did so again, this time by asking a
>>question in ethics.

Paul Marsden replies

[Memetics] is not dualist in Platonic or Cartesian or any other forms - it
>is monist. Nor is memetics idealist
>because it posits an empirical and material world of objects.

In light of Timothy Perper's challenge I find it curious that my posting on
mimetics/memetics of a few days ago has gone without comment.

Paul Marsden's assertion that memetics is not dualist is philosophically
highly questionable. Insofar as it is realist and empiricist it is, as I
suggested in my former posting, caught in a dialectical relation with
idealism, one that assumes that a "material world of objects" is observable
as such and not always already constructed by our intellectual and
appetitive predispositions. This can hardly be asserted without careful
argument.

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